The Art of Communication: From Corporate to Podcasting

What does a 100-episode podcasting milestone have in common with high-performance leadership? Everything, according to Rosie Zilinskas. Drawing from her 30-year corporate career and success as host of the No Woman Left Behind podcast, Rosie reveals the powerful principles that connect exceptional podcasting with career advancement and leadership excellence.

The conversation takes us beyond surface-level interview techniques into the art of organic conversation. Rather than following rigid question scripts, Rosie shares how creating authentic connections with guests transforms both the podcasting experience and the value delivered to listeners. This approach parallels effective leadership communication, where authenticity trumps formality every time.

"Preparation, preparation, preparation begets confidence" becomes our mantra as Rosie unpacks the psychology behind high performance. Whether preparing for a podcast interview or career-defining presentation, thorough preparation creates the foundation for genuine confidence. The anxiety we feel in high-stakes situations almost always stems from inadequate preparation - a revelation that applies universally across professional domains.

The most fascinating insights emerge when discussing daily rituals and routines. Rosie's 5 AM to 9 AM personal development time - filled with meditation, exercise, journaling, and intention-setting - demonstrates how high performers prioritize self-renewal. This intentional approach to energy management creates the capacity for sustained excellence, whether in podcasting, leadership, or any demanding role.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction to Rosie Zielinski
• 3:00 The Art of Organic Podcasting
• 9:40 Structuring Presentations for Maximum Impact
• 17:30 Guest Pitching and Podcast Etiquette
• 22:20 Preparation Equals Confidence
• 27:50 High Performance Morning Routines
• 32:30 Final Thoughts and Resources

Transcript

Carl Richards: 0:04

Welcome to Communication Connection Community the podcaster's podcast. This podcast takes a deep dive into modern day communication strategies in the podcasting space. We chat with interesting people who make the podcasting and speaking spaces exciting and vibrant. We also dive into the podcasting community with news updates, latest trends and topics from this ever-evolving space. So strap in, it's going to be one amazing ride. Let's dive into today's episode... Rosie Zilinskas is a 30-year corporate veteran. She's here to reveal powerful principles to help you unlock your leadership potential and advance in your career. She is also a podcaster. We're so thrilled that she's joining us today. She's a high-performance coach as well, and I know we're going to have a phenomenal conversation. Rosie, welcome to the podcast.

Rosie Zilinskas: 1:02

Hi Carl, Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to talk about all things podcast and speaking and career so any way you want to go, let's go.

Carl Richards: 1:09

I am so excited. So you are a podcaster, but it's not like you've been doing this since podcasts were in diapers. You've only been on this podcasting journey. What is it? A couple of years now.

Rosie Zilinskas: 1:20

It's just over two years. I just had my 100th episode celebration on the no Woman Left Behind podcast, and it's all about advancement for women in their corporate career. So, yes, and I love podcasting 100 plus episodes in.

Carl Richards: 1:35

How does that feel?

Rosie Zilinskas: 1:36

It feels like surreal. I mean, when I think back, I'm like, is it really possible that I've had 100 podcasts? So it's been a learning journey, as we all. You know. All podcasters know that it's a journey and you get better and better. And just yesterday I recorded an episode for my podcast and someone said gosh, you're a really good interviewer. I'm like, oh cool, that's kind of cool. That feels good, you know.

Carl Richards: 1:59

So yeah, and after a hundred episodes you get pretty good at interviewing, shall we say. I always like to refer to it as not so much an interview. It's like the Oprah effect. We're having a conversation, we're just hanging out on the couch together, chatting really. That's the way I like to approach it anyhow now, but part of my process is having a 15-minute chat with the guests, just so that I can have that synergy, so I can test the synergy.

Rosie Zilinskas: 2:32

Is there synergy? Because we all know when you have a podcast guest, that's you know you don't have that connection. It's a really difficult and we kind of flesh out, you know, some of the topics that we're going to focus on, but there's nothing set in stone. Again, it's just kind of bullet points and conversation, because I want to make it really organic and wherever things go, they go, and then I'm really good at kind of pulling things back and redirecting and you know, so, on and so forth.

Carl Richards: 2:58

So, as you are, we may as well just jump right into it. Seeing as you jumped right into it, let's just keep the ball going in this conversational tone and also talk about that, because I think that's one of the challenges that especially early podcasters get into. Is, they're okay, I'm going to have guests. Number one you don't have to have guests. That's number one. Number two is okay. If I have guests, I need to have questionnaires. I got to do this and I have to do this and, yes, it's not a bad idea, as you said, to figure out what the CRG going. We're both connected through PodMatch. We see each other's biographies and information. So, thanks to the lovely and brilliant and talented Alex Sanfilippo and I swear to God he needs to pay me for the number of times I sing his praises we're connected here, but it also allows us to check each other out. It's almost like online dating in a way.

Rosie Zilinskas: 4:03

Oh my gosh, you took the words right out of my mouth, carl, so I was thinking it's like online dating for podcasters.

Carl Richards: 4:09

Yes, so we've already and Alex probably likes it when we say this so we've already checked out each other's profile. We've done that part of the dating. Now it's the actual conversation. But I like how you really shared something that I want to emphasize, and that's that organic way that you're bringing your information forward, whether you're having a conversation like we are or whether you're doing a solo show. It's crucial because audiences don't want to hear. Question number one what is your name? Question number two where are you from? Question number three it should be organic, it should be authentic.

Rosie Zilinskas: 4:39

Absolutely. I totally agree and I do. Generally. When I start recording my podcast episode with my guests, I always tell them, you know, the intro and the recap I will do after, because it's kind of the trailer of what's coming and the lessons, the learning points that I took from the conversation, and I usually have my guests give me one actionable tip at the very end. So I highlight that as well. So it's a pretty, pretty regimented process as far as the format, but it's fluid in the pieces that go into it and how I actually record the podcast and it's always. I end up having such amazing conversations because these are all. I only interview women that are, you know, leaders or former leaders or amazing entrepreneurs that can help women in the corporate space, and I end up having some amazing conversations with these women.

Carl Richards: 5:30

We'll make sure, of course, that that link to your show is posted in the show notes for later, but I definitely want to jump on that as well and say that that's really what drives people, is that organic conversations, that very laid back approach which makes a huge difference. It's similar to if you've and I know you've spent a lot of time doing public speaking as well when you're on stage, you know if the speaker is not comfortable or if they're not engaging their audience, if they're not doing things like every now and again they check in and you can tell the difference between a seasoned pro who knows how to engage the audience, bring them along on a journey, versus the question number one how are you all doing today? Question number two you can tell the difference.

Rosie Zilinskas: 6:14

Absolutely, absolutely, and you know, interestingly enough, so in my speaking they always say you know kind of start with your story. They always say you know kind of start with your story. And I've kind of shifted it a little bit because now I kind of talk about my story at the end. Because, yes, I talk about my story at the very beginning a little bit. But you know, the people are there to learn something, to listen, to understand. So a lot of times I kind of jump into the content with some kind of icebreaker or whatever. And, by the way, I got a great icebreaker the other day from an event planner and she said if you were to be an appliance, what appliance would you be and why? I was like, oh, that's fantastic, I love that so much.

Carl Richards: 6:56

I'm stealing that. I love it. Hopefully that icebreaker isn't copywritten anywhere.

Rosie Zilinskas: 7:00

No, it is not. She said steal away.

Carl Richards: 7:02

Because that is phenomenal and you hit the nail right on the head there that you know getting on stage and sharing and I used to do the same thing. I would have my origin story at the beginning or it's speckled throughout the presentation. Same with the podcast, as you mentioned earlier. And again, I think this comes from my radio days because I would literally say okay, guest, here we go. I've got about a two minute intro where I'm going to talk and you're going to listen. That'll include your intro and then it's nicely packaged together and sent out that way.

Carl Richards: 7:29

But I like this format into the podcasting space. Start there of doing the things that are I don't want to say they're not relevant to the guests, but things that you can do later, because you don't know where the conversation is going from the beginning, because you haven't had the conversation yet, so you don't know what the person's going to say. And as far as the stage presentations go, I want to ask you this question I think I already know the answer but the story that you said now you're saving a lot of the story till the end Wouldn't it also depend on the story that you want to share? There are some pretty heavy stories that you don't necessarily want to start out with. You want to build up to that, I think, and leave them on a high note from that story.

Rosie Zilinskas: 8:12

Absolutely, and I'll tell you just a tiny little bit about mine. I went through a really bad divorce so I ended up being a single mom, had two little kids, and my catalyst of going into this career advancement is like I have these two little kids, I'm the sole provider for them. I need to make more money, and so it did feel a little heavy when I started with that conversation at the beginning. And so now, when they know the three principles, or the three saboteurs, and they convert into principles, and then I talk about my why and I have a picture of my two kids and when I was able to buy a house for the first time after that whole ordeal, it flows much better and they understand why I did what I did.

Carl Richards: 8:49

And you've got the time, typically within a stage presentation, to structure it that way. You're not. It's not like a Toastmasters contest speech where you're seven minutes and you've got to be off the stage. Actually, it's seven minutes 30 seconds before you're disqualified. I've maybe done that a couple of times.

Rosie Zilinskas: 9:03

I'm a Toastmaster too.

Carl Richards: 9:05

So minutes, 30 seconds before you're disqualified. I've maybe done that a couple of times. I'm a Toastmaster too. So, yes, usually when you're keynoting or you're one of many speakers in a forum, you've got at least 20 minutes, absolutely, maybe 30. And if you're lucky to be the keynote presenter, it's usually 45 to 60. You've got the time to not think, okay, I have to get all of this in in seven minutes.

Carl Richards: 9:23

No, you can structure it appropriately to the audience, the story and you, because some people don't want to start with their origin story. They don't want to start there and again, it all depends on the story. I've heard some pretty heavy stories that if you started with them, the audience would be in a depressed place right off the top. You want to empower them, I think, before you go and I think that's the same with the podcast too I think there's an empowerment piece that you want to make sure you're leaving that message there, but start with it. Start, maybe, with what the problem is or what's the focus of your message. And again I'll go back to Toastmasters it's Toastmasters 2.0. Tell them what you're going to tell them. Tell them and then tell them what you just told them Really.

Rosie Zilinskas: 10:05

Exactly. And so when I'm interviewing guests on my podcast, I say tell me what you do and all those things to the last part of the podcast because I transitioned to okay, so let's figure out, how did you get to where you are today? Tell me about your journey, and then we kind of go into their story and their journey. I know a lot of people start their podcast with tell me about yourself. But when I'm on a podcast and someone says to me tell me about yourself. You know, introduce yourself to the audience. I'm 55 years old, carl. Do you want me to start when I'm like when I was born, in kindergarten, in high school, like where do you want to start? So I always start with like the last 10 years. School, like where do you want to start? So I always start with like the last 10 years. But it's really hard when the interviewer or the podcast host is like introduce yourself to the audience, and that just doesn't feel right to me.

Carl Richards: 10:54

That drives me insane Not literally, but it really when you say where do you want me to start? I used to stutter when I was a kid. You want to hear about that? Do you want to hear the story of not going into acting and going to college to be in broadcasting? Do you want to hear that? Do you want to hear something about my personal journey? Do you want to hear that? What is it that you really want to hear?

Carl Richards: 11:16

So when I say, when I share with people and I think most of us are on the same page it's where in the journey does it make sense. So usually within the introduction which, of course, now I do after, I do it all after Right, so you're hearing this. By the way, if you're listening to this, you've already heard the introduction, but at the recording of this here, it is the end of the summer 2024. Rosie hasn't heard her introduction yet. So when she hears this, she'll be like oh, that's what that sounds like. Okay, but you know, really being able to have that organic story and bring people along on the journey, I think is crucial, a very crucial component.

Rosie Zilinskas: 11:53

Yes, absolutely. And again, you know we want to give the audience what they're here for. My podcast is women that are trying to figure out how to advance in their careers, and then I kind of share with them you know, the rest of the story for the guests. So yeah, yeah, phenomenal.

Carl Richards: 12:09

Let's talk about guesting. Let's talk about guests for a minute. Yeah, challenges that you've had with guests let's talk about.

Rosie Zilinskas: 12:15

Okay. So I'm going to ask you a question have you ever had podcasting guests with West? I don't know, I don't know. Okay, so I was on the episode not too long ago and it was. We got on camera on Zoom, just kind of like how you and I did, and the host started recording immediately. He or she started asking me questions immediately. We got into the conversation. So there was no chit chat. No, hey, rosie, how you doing Nothing? Then we talked about the topic for 25 minutes and he said all right. He or she said all right, thank you, click. And then he disconnected the call. Wow, no debrief, no conversation. No, thank you for being here. No, nothing. And I literally went out to my kitchen and I told my husband I just got podcasting guest Whitworth and I was just like you know, when the Zoom ended I was like, literally, I was like what just happened? I do not know what just happened, never happened to me before. So that was one challenging experience that I've had interesting guests, the two basic kinds that when I say guests.

Carl Richards: 13:40

The two basic kinds are can carry on a conversation quite well or they can't. And sometimes, if they can carry on a conversation, they carry it on too far, too long. I had one recently and when we got to the end of the conversation, this particular guest said so how was that? Was that about 10, 15 minutes? I said no, we were going for almost an hour and a half and I was afforded the opportunity time-wise. I didn't have to rush to an appointment or have an online call, but it's still totally no concept of timing. So it was interesting, because then I have to say okay, team, here's the episode.

Carl Richards: 14:16

We might have to truncate this or we might have to separate it and do like a part one, part two, because there was so much detail, so much information and again, I'll take responsibility for this and sometimes I don't set it up properly.

Carl Richards: 14:30

So if I say something like so, rosie, tell me about yourself, okay, I haven't set you up properly to do that, so I might give you way too much leash. Or you might say something like well, I'm a, you know, I'm a high performance coach and I'm a podcaster and a mom and, you know, got a couple of dogs and that's it, because I haven't set the table for the other thing that drives me crazy and this, this also is the responsibility of the host is the asking closed questions Right, but as the guest, is the asking closed questions Right? But as the guest, it's understanding that if a host asks you a closed question, don't close it simply by saying yes or no. And again this goes back to the experience of you've had guesting experiences, but you've also had hosting experiences where you know you're like, oh shoot, I shouldn't have asked that question like that because it's potentially a closed question. But give me a little bit more. So I really try to make sure that I don't ask a closed question.

Rosie Zilinskas: 15:21

Yes, no, I totally agree. We need to be prepared enough so that we can carry on the conversation. I've been pretty fortunate. I really haven't had a lot of guests where the conversation doesn't generally flow. It's just very conversational. Like I say, I always have a set of idea of, like what we're going to talk about and you know how it always starts. But I haven't had a lot of horror stories per se for guests, but I've had a few as myself being a guest, so that's a little bit different.

Carl Richards: 15:50

And the other piece to that too is I don't know if you've started getting requests. I'd like to be on your show. Obviously, I know through Podmatch you can have that set up that way. But I get email requests saying I think so-and-so would be great for your show, so you can vet your guest ahead of time. But even if you do that, sometimes you'll either get an individual who isn't quite the best fit yes, what would you do in that case? If they're not quite the best fit, would you say, hey, you're not the fit or say, hey, you're not the fit.

Rosie Zilinskas: 16:19

Or even after the recording, would you say, hey, it's not going to work out. Yeah, first of all, I'm always very kind. You know I always want to make sure I'm very respectful and I always say you know what? My podcast caters to women in the corporate space. You're a health coach, so there really is no synergy. It doesn't align. So thank you so much for applying. So you know that's fine.

Rosie Zilinskas: 16:36

But I will tell you I do have a pet peeve about guests applying to my show. And so, as you saw, when I sent you a reach out and said you know, I'd really love to be on your podcast, I gave you all kind of my talking points. I gave you a lot of information that we could kind of take this conversation and I will get reach outs, whether it's via email or even on Podmatch. Can I be on your show? Literally, it'll say that I'd love to be on your show, with no other information on it and I'm sorry but I'm not going to do your job. So when I get stuff like that, I just delete it because it is so disrespectful for you to be. I want to be a guest on your show and then not give me any talking points, or why you align for my show. What are some of the topics that we can talk about? You know some speaking points. Something do a better job at pitching yourself to podcast hosts, so that is a pet peeve.

Carl Richards: 17:34

I think that's a good key there too, and I think in some cases it's inexperience they're very new to podcasting or they're new key there too, and I think in some cases it's inexperience they're very new to podcasting or they're new to the platform. And Alex makes it really simple. Let's see. I mentioned his name again. I swear to goodness I should definitely be collecting royalties for that. But the other piece is maybe it's a confidence issue. Maybe they're not quite sure how to pitch themselves to a host. I know when I first jumped on Podmatch I'm like, okay, well, and I know how to do it, had it done for my show. So I know, but for somebody who is brand new, they might not know the best way or have the confidence to be able to do it. My pet peeve is love to be on your show. Check my bio If you think it's a fit bye-bye. Yeah, I need a little bit more than that. Yeah, I'm going to check your bio anyhow, but give me something other than that.

Rosie Zilinskas: 18:19

Exactly. Yeah, it's exactly. They're not giving you reasons why to go further. So if I get information like that, where it's just like check my bio, I'm not going to do the work for you, so I'll just delete it or ignore it. So that's part of my process. Now, at the very beginning, Carl, when I was a very new host, I was trying to reply to everybody, and now I get dozens and dozens and dozens of requests and I just can't do that anymore, which I understand. But the people that really are not a match, those people I definitely reply to them and I'm like it doesn't align, You're not a match, so yeah.

Carl Richards: 18:57

I'm experiencing a very similar thing, and it's a good problem to have versus. You don't have enough guests, right? So thankfully there's a platform out there that allows us to do that. I did want to jump on this piece, though, about confidence building, and I know that we just brushed on it, but there's tools that you provide. From a business perspective, confidence is important. Whether you're on a podcast, whether you're in business, you need to not just put your best face forward, but confidence is something that customers, prospects, they know if confidence isn't in your blood, Absolutely so, you know in.

Rosie Zilinskas: 19:31

So in the United States the common phrase is in real estate it's location, location, location. For me and my clients for career advancement. But this applies to everybody preparation, preparation, preparation begets confidence. The more prepared you are, the more confident you become. So think of a time, Carl, when you did your homework on a guest and you were about to hit record and you felt like a million bucks because you know exactly what to say. And I'm sure you've had other situations where you didn't have time to do your homework on a guest and you're like trying to look at the bio five minutes before you're going to record and you're like, oh my gosh, I don't know what I'm going to talk about.

Rosie Zilinskas: 20:11

That feeling of like that anxiety that comes from not being prepared is very real. That comes from not being prepared is very real. So for me, when you are trying to be confident in something, that means that you need to prepare in whatever it is that you're trying to do, and that is such a key, such a huge thing for people to understand. When you feel anxiety, when you feel that lack of confidence, it's because you haven't prepared well, and that is a game changer for people to understand. It's simple, but it's super powerful.

Carl Richards: 20:50

Especially true in the speaking world. Yeah, One of the things that in my journey doing speaker training that I would share with people like, preparation is key, and I would be at networking events or other meetings and you would know the ones who were prepared, because they're the ones who came out under confidence in what they were doing, Not overconfident, but definitely clearly confident in what it is that they would be sharing. I think that that's a piece that sometimes people forget in the podcasting space and I've had that happen and I think the reason why for me there's a certain comfort zone is it's happened outside of the podcasting world. For me, yeah, having spent 25 years in broadcasting, where every now and again I would have guests showing up to the studio and again, this is when radio, for the most part, was live. All the time you have a guest coming to the studio. You don't know they're coming because the sales department might have forgot to tell you that. Oh yes, so is coming to talk about their event and they're showing up and you have like two minutes not even two minutes to say, OK, let's dive into what your event is, and I think that helped me in being confident in going in unscripted or unprepped.

Carl Richards: 21:55

Not that prep isn't good, because it is, but that's a different skill altogether, almost like improv. But improv is something that's taught. You don't just wake up in the morning and say I'm going to do improv like they do on Whose Line Is it Anyway? No, you need to go in knowing the rules of the game. So I think learning the rules of the game number one. But then also, if you don't know the rules, then you have to go in with more preparation. You need to be. You're not seasoned enough to think you can just off the cuff wing it, shall we say.

Rosie Zilinskas: 22:24

Yes, I totally agree with that, and you know now that I think about it. I did have a guest one time and at the time this was early on, when I was starting to host the podcast. This person, this woman, showed up. She was in her vehicle, the podcast this person, this woman, showed up. She was in her vehicle, she was literally combing her hair and she was brushing her teeth in the car and I was like so taken aback. I really didn't have the know-how of say you know what, this isn't a good time, I really need you to be home, be in a decent environment and not brushing. And she was literally like brushing her teeth and spitting, taking a swig of a water bottle, spitting it out in her car. And I went ahead and egged to that episode and now I would have said you know what, this is not the best time, this is not the best episode, so let's just reschedule. But that preparation, that know-how, that knowledge comes with the confidence as you continue to grow in whatever it is that you're working on.

Carl Richards: 23:24

I think it's definitely par for the course that there are people who that's how they live their life, shall we say. You know they've done it more than once. How did the toothbrush get to the car to begin with, and the comb? It's probably been in there a while too, right, and it's not just because, okay, I'm between appointments. I need to, you know, not me, because obviously I have any hair that needs to be freshened up. But you know, for somebody who's going on camera for an interview, typically, yeah, you need to be ready, but typically not doing it in your car. Once you know you've done it and the person you're going to see knows you've done it many times, I'm sure.

Rosie Zilinskas: 23:58

And as far as the confidence piece goes for my clients in the corporate space, I always tell them create your story vault, so that's like your seven accomplishments. Make sure that you know them and put it into that story format. And it's the same thing with podcast guests. So if you're going on podcasts, have your five to seven canned topics that you always talk about and know them inside and out. Be ready with them so that when you have a very fluid conversation you can just pull from your knowledge and you're confident because you already have that story vault, that vault of information that is seared in your brain that you are now able to own as an expert because you know them so well. And that, to me, is just such a huge confidence builder.

Carl Richards: 24:48

Confidence builder, but I think it's leading to what you spend your life doing, and that is as a high performance career coach. This is what you're helping people in this space all the time. This is a high level. This is not going to a job every single day. That's the same in, day in, day out. You know no disrespect to those jobs, but this is at a higher level. So we need to be thinking, performing, acting at a higher level, because, as a high performance career coach, that's what you're helping people do is perform at a higher, hence the term high performance level.

Rosie Zilinskas: 25:18

Yes, absolutely, and actually I have a great example. I had a client that we did high performance earlier this year and she's now part of my membership, so I was able to redo. One of the segments is a clarity chart and that's just to be clear on your goals, where you're going in your in life. And it's a lot of reflective work and we did her clarity chart again just a couple of days ago and where she was seven months ago to where she is today was completely different because she's grown so much from being a high performer now and really implementing all of those topics and we talk about energy and influence and clarity and productivity and all those things Her clarity chart was completely different.

Rosie Zilinskas: 25:59

It was such a cool thing to see the evolution and high performance is for everybody. It's not just for women in careers, but it is such a game changer for people. When you start, you know that old adage of peeling back the onion and knowing yourself. And that's the other thing about confidence is the more you know yourself, the more you know your core values and what your goals are and you know establish your morning routine and your evening routine, all those things. And it's not that we're perfect, but we have a really outlined and defined structure and that's where the confidence comes in and that's where the high performance just helps you live a better life, where you're joyous and happy and try to be in the present moment as much as you can.

Carl Richards: 26:46

I have a colleague who keynotes all over the world and one of the things he does, it doesn't matter where he is, it doesn't matter how he's feeling, unless he's really sick. That's a little bit different, but every single day he's in the gym. It doesn't matter what hotel he's in, doesn't matter. At home he has his home gym, but when he's on the road he's in the gym all the time, 5am or 5.30 for his workout. And again, it doesn't matter what time he goes to bed, because sometimes his keynotes are later in the evening or he's traveling from one country to another or across Canada or the US, where we're three different time zones. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if he gets in at midnight, 5 am, he's up, going to the gym.

Carl Richards: 27:26

So there's that focus, those keys of. And you're right, we're not perfect. Do, yeah. So there's that focus, those keys of. And you're right, we're not perfect. Do I miss a day? Several, I'm sure. But if you know that this is not just the confidence, but this is what high performers do, is it's commitment, it's dedication, it's doing those things reasonably consistently, shall we say.

Rosie Zilinskas: 27:44

Yes, absolutely. It's keeping promises to yourself, carl, because how many times do you negotiate with yourself? You're like, I'll do that workout later. And yeah, I don't work out seven days a week, but I meditate seven days a week. I make sure that I, even if I'm at a hotel or whatever, I will meditate in bed before I get up and do my thing. But it is so imperative and I think it's funny because my kids are grown now we don't have pets, it's just my husband and I, so he can take care of himself. But in the morning I get up generally at five o'clock in the morning and I don't start working till nine. And they're like what do you do for four hours? Well, I meditate for an hour, I work out for 40 minutes, I get my supplements, my water, I journal, I drink my coffee. So it's a very slow start to my day. And then when I'm ready and I start my day at nine, I feel like a million bucks. So it doesn't happen every single day, but 95% of the time.

Carl Richards: 28:42

And I think that's the difference between somebody who is performing at a high level it's confidence but it's discipline to do those things versus somebody who is not performing at that. And if you need help, then obviously that's what Rosie does is she helps people on that journey. As you mentioned earlier and I'm glad you mentioned this it's not just for business owners or people in the coaching space, it is for podcasters. We have to think of this as high performance. We should be thinking about that pretty much in everything that we do.

Rosie Zilinskas: 29:13

Yes, absolutely. I couldn't agree more. The one thing that we always start with, you know that clarity piece. But the second thing is that energy. How do you like you can so easily change the energy in your day by doing a simple two minute release meditation. So it's literally it's a meditation two minutes deep breathing for those two minutes and all you have to do is say release, release, release, and it just totally helps your stress just dissipate from your body and then it just gives you that energy to refocus, re-energize yourself and to continue on your day. But we have little tips and tricks and strategies that we do so that you can kind of reground yourself in spite of anything that is happening in your day that day.

Carl Richards: 29:57

I think the other thing too this is something that I've adopted Actually, it was my coach who browbeat me to make sure that I do this is blocking time in your day for yourself. For you, you said that 5 am to 9 am that's the you time and that's awesome. For other people it might be later in the day. I block off lunch and I don't just block 20 minutes. Again, thinking of my days in radio, sometimes that's all I had was 20 minutes, but now that I'm my own boss, I run my own company. No, I still need to block that hour and a half, not because it takes me an hour and a half to eat, but because that's when I can go for a walk, shift gears, journal, meditate, whatever it is that I need to do, and eat as well before I continue on with my day.

Rosie Zilinskas: 30:36

Yes, I couldn't agree more. And again, it doesn't have to be in the morning or at lunch, it could be any time during the day, but the consistency is key. I mean, there's people that work out in the evening. I could never work out in the evening because I just don't have the energy. But I know a woman that works out every single day at 8 pm. 8 pm, that's when she works out and I'm like kudos to you, but at least you're working out.

Carl Richards: 30:57

Yeah, I couldn't do it at 8 pm is when, every now and again, somebody will want to jump on a call at seven or eight o'clock in the evening and I'm like what I'm? Toast.

Carl Richards: 31:06

That's close to my bedtime right, or if I've had a long day. Sometimes I'm just getting to the end of my day. It doesn't happen every day, but there are times where there are things that go later in the day. I'm a part of the NSA would be the equivalent here in Canada. It's called CAPS, the Canadian Association of Professional Speakers, and sometimes those meetings are seven o'clock at night Not all the time, but sometimes they are. So that means I'm having a longer day. I've built in a little bit of extra time during the day, but it means that I'm not. I ain't. It means I'm not going to be working out at seven o'clock or eight o'clock in the evening.

Carl Richards: 31:40

I just couldn't do it. But if it, hey, if it works for you, two thumbs up, right.

Rosie Zilinskas: 31:44

Yeah, our Toastmasters meeting. So I'm a Toastmaster. I go every Monday. It starts from 7 to 8.30 pm and it's a little bit later. But I love Toastmasters and it's been a wonderful feature for me to become the speaker that I am today, so it's wonderful. So I will stay up a little bit past my bedtime those evenings.

Carl Richards: 32:02

And you'll get up before breakfast the next day, regardless of what time you go to bed, right, absolutely. This has been a phenomenal conversation. Rosie, as a high performance career coach, I know you have some great resources. What would you like to pass along to folks today to help them on their journey?

Rosie Zilinskas: 32:18

Well, there's a couple of things. So if you are thinking about the struggles that you're having in your day, I would be happy to have a strategy, call with your audience and just tell them about high performance, because I know it has changed my life and it has changed my clients' lives, so that's a big thing, and they can just reach me on my website at nowomanleftbehindcom to do that.

Carl Richards: 32:43

And we'll make sure that that link is there, and also the links to your podcast and all other social media where you can follow and learn more from Rosie. It's been a great conversation today, rosie, but before I let you go, this is the one thing. This is the one thing that is static in this show pretty much is. I'll leave you with the final thought.

Rosie Zilinskas: 33:00

You know, the final thought is really understand yourself so that you can explain it to other people. And that applies to anything, whether you're interviewing at a job, you're trying to become a speaker, whether you're a podcast host. The more you understand yourself, the more you are able to provide someone else with that value of what you bring to them, regardless of what you're doing. So those are my final words, carl.

Carl Richards: 33:29

I love it. Rosie Zilinskas, that's a great place to leave it. Thank you so much for being my guest today.

Rosie Zilinskas: 33:34

Thank you so much, Carl.

Carl Richards: 33:35

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Carl Richards: 33:48

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